Politics
The Massachusetts senator faced her position on Biden’s fitness to be president and spoke about how Democrats need to move forward.
Senator Elizabeth Warren confronted her decision to defend Joe Biden’s fitness to be president during last year’s election and laid out her mission for the Democratic Party’s future in a recent podcast interview.
Warren discussed her distaste for many of the Trump administration’s initiatives, including abrupt funding cuts and plans to abolish the Department of Education. Expressing the importance of appealing to voters, particularly the middle class, Warren talked about what Democrats need to do differently.
“Why is the Democratic Party so slow to pivot?” host Sam Fragoso asked Warren in Sunday’s episode of his “Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso” podcast. “We have so many talented people. Why can we not get past our past?”
Warren said the party needs to look backwards only to learn from past mistakes, prompting Fragoso to turn the conversation towards Biden’s failed reelection bid last year.
When asked if she regretted saying that Biden had a “mental acuity” and a “sharpness to him” until July 2024, Warren replied that she had only said what she “believed to be true.”
“You think he was as sharp as you?” Fragoso asked, which seemed to catch Warren off guard.
“I said I had not seen [a] decline, and I hadn’t at that point,” Warren said after briefly hesitating.
“You did not see any decline from 2024 Joe Biden to 2021 Joe Biden?” Fragoso asked with a look of disbelief.
Warren insisted that Biden was “sharp” and “on his feet” at meetings and live events.
“Senator, ‘on his feet’ is not praise,” Fragoso said. “‘He can speak in sentences’ is not praise.”
Warren conceded that Fragoso’s point was “fair enough” but said that “… the question is ‘what are we going to do now?’”
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“We gotta use all of our tools in the toolbox to do as much as we humanly possibly can,” Warren said. “This is now for all the marbles, Sam.”
“But last time was for all the marbles, I thought,” Fragoso cut in. “In 2020, it was the soul of the nation. How many times is it gonna be for all the marbles? Can we just have a normal election?”
To fight for “the survival of our democracy,” the way forward for Democrats is to “get real power in this moment by getting people across the country to weigh in,” Warren said.
“I wish I was better at this… I wish our team was better at this, but we start from the fact that we are on the right side, and we start from the fact that there are a whole lot of people who are in this fight with us,” Warren said. “I truly believe there are enough of us who are willing to fight hard enough that Donald Trump and Elon Musk will not be the final chapter in our democracy.”
Though Warren said she has no plans to run for president in 2028, she hopes to help lead the charge towards a stronger and more in-touch Democratic Party.
“I’m here to pull as many people into this fight as I can,” Warren said.
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